<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Hi Ian,</span></div><div><span>Thanks for helping. If you don't mind, I'm still trying to understand the process. Here are my comments.</span></div><div><br></div><br><span></span><span>>>> </span>For this particular Transcript ENST00000169293 we have two UniProtSPTREMBL entries (C9JLU5_HUMAN and E7EQ37_HUMAN, well mapped to its translations) of which neither has any EMBL references with a valid protein_id and in fact it lists this as "NOT_ANNOTATED_CDS" for this part.<div>a. ENST00000337774 appears to also map to this as well (via going to Ensembl's External References->General Identifiers link). Is the reason that ENST00000337774 shows up correctly as protein coding because in addition to this, it also maps to the UniProt SWISSPROT MASP1_HUMAN and the later is what flagged it
correctly?</div><div><br></div><div>b. As you can see here (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=gene&cmd=search&term=ENST00000169293 ) the transcript shows up as protein coding and also maps to the same Gene/Protein as ENST0000033777 does. Is it a bug that Uniprot is not showing the proper link information or ENST00000169293 or am I interpreting the following wrong http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=gene&cmd=search&term=ENST00000169293 ? From the NCBI link, I would have assumed that Uniprot would have showed the same for that transcript.<br></div><div><br></div><div>c. Why does Ensembl use Unitprot files as an intermediate lookup for GenBank? My fear here is that it is possible that thousands (over 60,000) transcript are showing up incorrectly.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thank you,</div><div>Phillipe<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><span style="text-decoration: underline;">
</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: 'Luxi Sans',Helvetica,Arial,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: center; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: nowrap; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; background-color: rgb(234, 238, 255);"><a href="http://useast.ensembl.org/Homo_sapiens/Transcript/Similarity?db=core;g=ENSG00000127241;r=3:186935942-187009810;t=ENST00000337774" style="color: rgb(51, 102, 187);"><span style="font-weight: bold;"></span></a></span></div><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> ian Longden <ianl@ebi.ac.uk><br><b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> pip pipster <pipsterpip@yahoo.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> "Dev@ensembl.org" <Dev@ensembl.org><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, August 25, 2011 5:57 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [ensembl-dev] Bug or User error with filtering?<br></font><br>Hi Phillipe,<br><br>We match GenBank entries to EnsEMBL via UniProt entries.<br>The UniProt files we parse have DR lines which we use to get the<br>Genbank Entries ( EMBL in the file).<br><br>i.e.<br><br>ID EXAMPLE_HUMAN<br>...<br>DR EMBL; AAAA; BBBB;<br>....<br><br>Where AAAA would be the EMBL accession and BBBB the protein_id<br><br>For this particular Transcript ENST00000169293 we have two UniProt<br>SPTREMBL entries<br> (C9JLU5_HUMAN and E7EQ37_HUMAN, well mapped to its translations) of<br>which neither has any EMBL references with a valid protein_id and
in<br>fact it lists this as "NOT_ANNOTATED_CDS" for this part.<br><br>Protein GeneBank ID: BAA05928 is mapped via the UniProt SWISSPROT<br>MASP1_HUMAN which maps to another Transcript (ENST00000337774) in the<br>same gene.<br><br>Does this help explain the process and explain why we have no<br>protein_id for some Transcripts.<br><br><br>-Ian.<br><br>On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 3:46 PM, pip pipster <<a ymailto="mailto:pipsterpip@yahoo.com" href="mailto:pipsterpip@yahoo.com">pipsterpip@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>> Sending this thread to the Ensembl mailing list now as it appears it may be<br>> Ensembl data related. Any ideas why the ENSEMBL transcripts aren't mapped<br>> correctly to the GenBank Protein Accessions?<br>> Thank you for the help.<br>> Best regards,<br>> Phillipe<br>><br>> ----- Forwarded Message -----<br>> From: Elena Rivkin <<a ymailto="mailto:Elena.Rivkin@oicr.on.ca"
href="mailto:Elena.Rivkin@oicr.on.ca">Elena.Rivkin@oicr.on.ca</a>><br>> To: pip pipster <<a ymailto="mailto:pipsterpip@yahoo.com" href="mailto:pipsterpip@yahoo.com">pipsterpip@yahoo.com</a>><br>> Cc: Junjun Zhang <<a ymailto="mailto:Junjun.Zhang@oicr.on.ca" href="mailto:Junjun.Zhang@oicr.on.ca">Junjun.Zhang@oicr.on.ca</a>><br>> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 1:11 PM<br>> Subject: Re: [BioMart Users] Bug or User error with filtering?<br>><br>> Hi Phillipe,<br>> From the data you provided, as you said, it looks like these Emsembl<br>> transcripts (ENST00000169293) (and many others in similar categories) are<br>> not mapped to the GenBank Protein Accessions, and therefore are not<br>> retrieved via quries to BioMart.<br>> Unfortunately, I don't know why that is. I recommned forwarding your<br>> question to Ensembl helpdesk, and they might be able to assist you in this<br>> matter.<br>> Thank
you.<br>> Elena Rivkin, PhD<br>> Outreach and Training Coordinator, Informatics and Bio-computing<br>><br>> Ontario Institute for Cancer Research<br>> MaRS Centre, South Tower<br>> 101 College Street, Suite 800<br>> Toronto, Ontario, Canada M5G 0A3<br>> Tel: 647-258-4316<br>> Toll-free: 1-866-678-6427<br>> www.oicr.on.ca<br>> This message and any attachments may contain confidential and/or privileged<br>> information for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review or<br>> distribution by anyone other than the person for whom it was originally<br>> intended is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error,<br>> please contact the sender and delete all copies. Opinions, conclusions or<br>> other information contained in this message may not be that of the<br>> organization.<br>><br>> From: pip pipster <<a ymailto="mailto:pipsterpip@yahoo.com"
href="mailto:pipsterpip@yahoo.com">pipsterpip@yahoo.com</a>><br>> Reply-To: pip pipster <<a ymailto="mailto:pipsterpip@yahoo.com" href="mailto:pipsterpip@yahoo.com">pipsterpip@yahoo.com</a>><br>> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 11:50:00 -0400<br>> To: Microsoft Office User <<a ymailto="mailto:Elena.Rivkin@oicr.on.ca" href="mailto:Elena.Rivkin@oicr.on.ca">Elena.Rivkin@oicr.on.ca</a>>, Junjun Zhang<br>> <<a ymailto="mailto:Junjun.Zhang@oicr.on.ca" href="mailto:Junjun.Zhang@oicr.on.ca">Junjun.Zhang@oicr.on.ca</a>>, "<a ymailto="mailto:users@biomart.org" href="mailto:users@biomart.org">users@biomart.org</a>" <<a ymailto="mailto:users@biomart.org" href="mailto:users@biomart.org">users@biomart.org</a>><br>> Cc: Rhoda Kinsella via RT <<a ymailto="mailto:helpdesk@ensembl.org" href="mailto:helpdesk@ensembl.org">helpdesk@ensembl.org</a>><br>> Subject: Re: [BioMart Users] Bug or User error with filtering?<br>><br>>
Elena,<br>> You should be able to follow this up the chain in getting accession numbers.<br>> a. From Transcript<br>> <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=gene&cmd=search&term=ENST00000169293" target="_blank">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=gene&cmd=search&term=ENST00000169293</a><br>><br>> b. To Gene (link to this Gene URL is located on Transcript link above)<br>> <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/D28593.1" target="_blank">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/D28593.1</a><br>><br>> c. To Protein (link to this Protein URL is located on Gene link above)<br>> <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/protein/471128" target="_blank">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/protein/471128</a><br>><br>> From this stand-point, I am led to believe that the Transcript maps to<br>> a Genbank protein accession and should not be filtered out with<br>>
the $query->addFilter("with_protein_id", ["Only"]) filter. But in either<br>> case I would like to understand why it's being filtered out since I have to<br>> trust the data I get back and deal with it accordingly.<br>> Likewise, the following URL also appears to chain the Gene to the proper<br>> transcripts.<br>> <a href="http://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/data/view/D28593" target="_blank">http://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/data/view/D28593</a><br>><br>> It appears that for some reason the data in Emsembl is not mapping<br>> transcript ENST00000169293 (and many others in similar categories) to the<br>> proper Protein Accession. But that's just my theory and would love to<br>> understand it better. Thoughts?<br>> Best regards,<br>> Phillipe<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> ________________________________<br>> From: Elena Rivkin <<a ymailto="mailto:Elena.Rivkin@oicr.on.ca"
href="mailto:Elena.Rivkin@oicr.on.ca">Elena.Rivkin@oicr.on.ca</a>><br>> To: pip pipster <<a ymailto="mailto:pipsterpip@yahoo.com" href="mailto:pipsterpip@yahoo.com">pipsterpip@yahoo.com</a>>; Junjun Zhang<br>> <<a ymailto="mailto:Junjun.Zhang@oicr.on.ca" href="mailto:Junjun.Zhang@oicr.on.ca">Junjun.Zhang@oicr.on.ca</a>>; "<a ymailto="mailto:users@biomart.org" href="mailto:users@biomart.org">users@biomart.org</a>" <<a ymailto="mailto:users@biomart.org" href="mailto:users@biomart.org">users@biomart.org</a>><br>> Cc: Rhoda Kinsella via RT <<a ymailto="mailto:helpdesk@ensembl.org" href="mailto:helpdesk@ensembl.org">helpdesk@ensembl.org</a>><br>> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 2:04 PM<br>> Subject: Re: [BioMart Users] Bug or User error with filtering?<br>><br>> Hi Philliple,<br>> When entering Protein GeneBank ID: BAA05928, and retrieving Ensembl gene id<br>> and transcript id, I get the following:<br>>
ENSG00000127241 ENST00000337774<br>> When entering Protein GeneBank ID: CAC17726, and retrieving Ensembl gene id<br>> and transcript id, I get the following:<br>> ENSG000000127152, ENST000000357195<br>> It appears that in the Ensembl mart that you are querying, these GeneBank<br>> Ids coorespond to a different transcripts (although to the same gene ID).<br>> Regards,<br>> Elena Rivkin, PhD<br>> Outreach and Training Coordinator, Informatics and Bio-computing<br>><br>> Ontario Institute for Cancer Research<br>> MaRS Centre, South Tower<br>> 101 College Street, Suite 800<br>> Toronto, Ontario, Canada M5G 0A3<br>> Tel: 647-258-4316<br>> Toll-free: 1-866-678-6427<br>> www.oicr.on.ca<br>> This message and any attachments may contain confidential and/or privileged<br>> information for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review or<br>> distribution by anyone other than the person for
whom it was originally<br>> intended is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error,<br>> please contact the sender and delete all copies. Opinions, conclusions or<br>> other information contained in this message may not be that of the<br>> organization.<br>><br>> From: pip pipster <<a ymailto="mailto:pipsterpip@yahoo.com" href="mailto:pipsterpip@yahoo.com">pipsterpip@yahoo.com</a>><br>> Reply-To: pip pipster <<a ymailto="mailto:pipsterpip@yahoo.com" href="mailto:pipsterpip@yahoo.com">pipsterpip@yahoo.com</a>><br>> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 13:51:56 -0400<br>> To: Junjun Zhang <<a ymailto="mailto:Junjun.Zhang@oicr.on.ca" href="mailto:Junjun.Zhang@oicr.on.ca">Junjun.Zhang@oicr.on.ca</a>>, "<a ymailto="mailto:users@biomart.org" href="mailto:users@biomart.org">users@biomart.org</a>"<br>> <<a ymailto="mailto:users@biomart.org"
href="mailto:users@biomart.org">users@biomart.org</a>><br>> Cc: Rhoda Kinsella via RT <<a ymailto="mailto:helpdesk@ensembl.org" href="mailto:helpdesk@ensembl.org">helpdesk@ensembl.org</a>><br>> Subject: Re: [BioMart Users] Bug or User error with filtering?<br>><br>> Thank you Junjun.<br>> Elena, to answer your question, I believe the ncbi links in the below thread<br>> include a link to the protein where you can get the protein accession<br>> number. For example, for the 2 transcripts below you will find links to the<br>> following proteins. You will also see that the transcripts are correctly<br>> showing up on the URL's as being protein coding.<br>> <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/protein/471128" target="_blank">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/protein/471128</a> (accession BAA05928)<br>> and<br>> <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/protein/11558488"
target="_blank">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/protein/11558488</a> (accession CAC17726)<br>> Thank you,<br>> Phillipe<br>><br>> ________________________________<br>> From: Junjun Zhang <<a ymailto="mailto:Junjun.Zhang@oicr.on.ca" href="mailto:Junjun.Zhang@oicr.on.ca">Junjun.Zhang@oicr.on.ca</a>><br>> To: pip pipster <<a ymailto="mailto:pipsterpip@yahoo.com" href="mailto:pipsterpip@yahoo.com">pipsterpip@yahoo.com</a>>; "<a ymailto="mailto:users@biomart.org" href="mailto:users@biomart.org">users@biomart.org</a>"<br>> <<a ymailto="mailto:users@biomart.org" href="mailto:users@biomart.org">users@biomart.org</a>><br>> Cc: Rhoda Kinsella via RT <<a ymailto="mailto:helpdesk@ensembl.org" href="mailto:helpdesk@ensembl.org">helpdesk@ensembl.org</a>><br>> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:59 PM<br>> Subject: Re: [BioMart Users] Bug or User error with filtering?<br>><br>> Hi Phillipe,<br>> I am forwarding
your questions to the Ensembl Helpdesk. Ensembl team is the<br>> best to answer questions about data contents in Ensembl databases.<br>> Cheers,<br>> Junjun<br>><br>> From: Elena Rivkin <<a ymailto="mailto:Elena.Rivkin@oicr.on.ca" href="mailto:Elena.Rivkin@oicr.on.ca">Elena.Rivkin@oicr.on.ca</a>><br>> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 10:46:35 -0400<br>> To: pip pipster <<a ymailto="mailto:pipsterpip@yahoo.com" href="mailto:pipsterpip@yahoo.com">pipsterpip@yahoo.com</a>>, Rhoda Kinsella <<a ymailto="mailto:rhoda@ebi.ac.uk" href="mailto:rhoda@ebi.ac.uk">rhoda@ebi.ac.uk</a>>,<br>> "<a ymailto="mailto:users@biomart.org" href="mailto:users@biomart.org">users@biomart.org</a>" <<a ymailto="mailto:users@biomart.org" href="mailto:users@biomart.org">users@biomart.org</a>><br>> Subject: Re: [BioMart Users] Bug or User error with filtering?<br>><br>> Hi Phillipe,<br>> Can you let me know, for these two transcripts,
what are their Genbank<br>> protein accessions. I cant find them.<br>> Thank you.<br>> Elena Rivkin, PhD<br>> Outreach and Training Coordinator, Informatics and Bio-computing<br>><br>> Ontario Institute for Cancer Research<br>> MaRS Centre, South Tower<br>> 101 College Street, Suite 800<br>> Toronto, Ontario, Canada M5G 0A3<br>> Tel: 647-258-4316<br>> Toll-free: 1-866-678-6427<br>> www.oicr.on.ca<br>> This message and any attachments may contain confidential and/or privileged<br>> information for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review or<br>> distribution by anyone other than the person for whom it was originally<br>> intended is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error,<br>> please contact the sender and delete all copies. Opinions, conclusions or<br>> other information contained in this message may not be that of the<br>> organization.<br>><br>> From: pip
pipster <<a ymailto="mailto:pipsterpip@yahoo.com" href="mailto:pipsterpip@yahoo.com">pipsterpip@yahoo.com</a>><br>> Reply-To: pip pipster <<a ymailto="mailto:pipsterpip@yahoo.com" href="mailto:pipsterpip@yahoo.com">pipsterpip@yahoo.com</a>><br>> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 10:32:43 -0400<br>> To: Rhoda Kinsella <<a ymailto="mailto:rhoda@ebi.ac.uk" href="mailto:rhoda@ebi.ac.uk">rhoda@ebi.ac.uk</a>>, "<a ymailto="mailto:users@biomart.org" href="mailto:users@biomart.org">users@biomart.org</a>"<br>> <<a ymailto="mailto:users@biomart.org" href="mailto:users@biomart.org">users@biomart.org</a>><br>> Subject: Re: [BioMart Users] Bug or User error with filtering?<br>><br>> After doing more investigation, something definitely isn't adding up. As it<br>> turns out, filtering by Genbank protein accession is what we want and we<br>> need the ability to exclude. The 2 transcripts below are examples
(they<br>> show up as protein coding Genbank as well as Ensembl) but there are<br>> thousands more like this. The filter below is taking them out despite them<br>> having a Genbank protein accession. What may be causing this?<br>><br>> ENST00000169293<br>> <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=gene&cmd=search&term=ENST00000169293" target="_blank">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=gene&cmd=search&term=ENST00000169293</a><br>> <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/D28593" target="_blank">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/D28593</a>?<br>> <a href="http://useast.ensembl.org/Homo_sapiens/Transcript/Summary?g=ENSG00000127241;r=3:186964149-187009745;t=ENST00000169293" target="_blank">http://useast.ensembl.org/Homo_sapiens/Transcript/Summary?g=ENSG00000127241;r=3:186964149-187009745;t=ENST00000169293</a><br>><br>> ENST00000345514<br>> <a
href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/gene?term=ENST00000345514" target="_blank">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/gene?term=ENST00000345514</a><br>> <a href="http://useast.ensembl.org/Homo_sapiens/Transcript/Summary?g=ENSG00000127152;r=14:99635624-99737822;t=ENST00000345514" target="_blank">http://useast.ensembl.org/Homo_sapiens/Transcript/Summary?g=ENSG00000127152;r=14:99635624-99737822;t=ENST00000345514</a><br>><br>> Filter used:<br>> Manual (non-Perl)<br>> Homo sapiens genes (GRCh37.p3)<br>> Filters<br>> with protein ID(s): Only<br>> Attributes<br>> Ensembl Gene ID<br>> Ensembl Transcript ID<br>> Same problem occurs using Perl filter as well<br>> $query->addFilter("with_protein_id", ["Only"]);<br>>
________________________________<br>> From: pip pipster <<a ymailto="mailto:pipsterpip@yahoo.com" href="mailto:pipsterpip@yahoo.com">pipsterpip@yahoo.com</a>><br>> To: Rhoda Kinsella <<a ymailto="mailto:rhoda@ebi.ac.uk" href="mailto:rhoda@ebi.ac.uk">rhoda@ebi.ac.uk</a>><br>> Cc: "<a ymailto="mailto:users@biomart.org" href="mailto:users@biomart.org">users@biomart.org</a>" <<a ymailto="mailto:users@biomart.org" href="mailto:users@biomart.org">users@biomart.org</a>><br>> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 8:07 AM<br>> Subject: Re: [BioMart Users] Bug or User error with filtering?<br>><br>> Rhoda,<br>> Thank you for the feedback, very helpful. The Gene Type filter,<br>> 'protein_coding' will likely work, however it doesn't allow me to do an<br>> 'exclude' type filter (i.e. give me everything except for the non<br>> protein-coding genes). Do you know if you can still do an exclude using the<br>>
method you described?<br>> Thank you!<br>> Phillipe<br>> ________________________________<br>> From: Rhoda Kinsella <<a ymailto="mailto:rhoda@ebi.ac.uk" href="mailto:rhoda@ebi.ac.uk">rhoda@ebi.ac.uk</a>><br>> To: pip pipster <<a ymailto="mailto:pipsterpip@yahoo.com" href="mailto:pipsterpip@yahoo.com">pipsterpip@yahoo.com</a>><br>> Cc: "<a ymailto="mailto:users@biomart.org" href="mailto:users@biomart.org">users@biomart.org</a>" <<a ymailto="mailto:users@biomart.org" href="mailto:users@biomart.org">users@biomart.org</a>><br>> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 5:04 AM<br>> Subject: Re: [BioMart Users] Bug or User error with filtering?<br>><br>> Hi Phillipe<br>> You are filtering using the protein ID (Genbank protein accession) and as<br>> this Ensembl protein ID does not have a corresponding Genbank protein<br>> accession, you will not get this ENSP. Please filter using the Gene type<br>> filter and
select protein_coding. That way you will get the ENSP data you<br>> require.<br>> Regards<br>> Rhoda<br>><br>> On 21 Aug 2011, at 22:54, pip pipster wrote:<br>><br>> We are seeing strange things occur with the protein ID filter. For example,<br>> transcript ENST00000345514 is being filtered out by the following search<br>> below. However, you can see that it indeed has a Preotin ID shown here:<br>> <a href="http://useast.ensembl.org/Homo_sapiens/Transcript/Summary?db=core;g=ENSG00000127152;r=14:99635624-99737861;t=ENST00000345514" target="_blank">http://useast.ensembl.org/Homo_sapiens/Transcript/Summary?db=core;g=ENSG00000127152;r=14:99635624-99737861;t=ENST00000345514</a><br>> . Any idea why this is being filtered? Could this be a bug in Biomart/Data<br>> or User Error?<br>><br>> Manual (non-Perl)<br>> Homo sapiens genes (GRCh37.p3)<br>>
Filters<br>> with protein ID(s): Only<br>> Attributes<br>> Ensembl Gene ID<br>> Ensembl Transcript ID<br>> Same problem occurs using Perl filter as well<br>> $query->addFilter("with_protein_id", ["Only"]);<br>> Thank you,<br>> Phillipe<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Users mailing list<br>> <a ymailto="mailto:Users@biomart.org" href="mailto:Users@biomart.org">Users@biomart.org</a><br>> <a href="https://lists.biomart.org/mailman/listinfo/users" target="_blank">https://lists.biomart.org/mailman/listinfo/users</a><br>><br>> Rhoda Kinsella Ph.D.<br>> Ensembl Bioinformatician,<br>> European Bioinformatics Institute (EMBL-EBI),<br>> Wellcome Trust Genome Campus,<br>> Hinxton<br>> Cambridge CB10 1SD,<br>>
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