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    Hi Will,<br>
    <br>
    And thank you very much for looking into this. <br>
    <br>
    The reason why I want to build my own cahce from gtf and fasta of
    the Gasterosteus_aculeatus is that on groupXIX the two last (of the
    three ) supercontigs are flipped in the Ensembl genome
    (Ross&Peichel 2008). I also first thougt that reverse
    complementing the fasta and gtf for groupXIX was the problem but
    ENSGACG00000003129 is located on a reagion that I didn't touch in
    the gtf or the fasta.<br>
    <br>
    I'll check the versions of Bioperl in our server and try using only
    the fasta and gtf for ENSGACG00000003129.<br>
    <br>
    Thanks,<br>
    Heidi<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">26.3.2013 16:04, Will McLaren
      kirjoitti:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAMVEDX01YHiQeoJmKLuNEy9MaLg-y_FJeKxTQaiwQxxWBsffPA@mail.gmail.com"
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      <div dir="ltr">Hi Heidi,
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        <div>Thanks for your patience, I've had a chance to look at this
          now.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div style="">If I build a cache file from the following files:</div>
        <div style=""><br>
        </div>
        <div style="">
          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="ftp://ftp.ensembl.org/pub/release-70/gtf/gasterosteus_aculeatus/Gasterosteus_aculeatus.BROADS1.70.gtf.gz">ftp://ftp.ensembl.org/pub/release-70/gtf/gasterosteus_aculeatus/Gasterosteus_aculeatus.BROADS1.70.gtf.gz</a><br>
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        <div style="">and</div>
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        <div style=""><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="ftp://ftp.ensembl.org/pub/release-70/fasta/gasterosteus_aculeatus/dna/Gasterosteus_aculeatus.BROADS1.70.dna.toplevel.fa.gz">ftp://ftp.ensembl.org/pub/release-70/fasta/gasterosteus_aculeatus/dna/Gasterosteus_aculeatus.BROADS1.70.dna.toplevel.fa.gz</a><br>
        </div>
        <div style=""><br>
        </div>
        <div style="">I get (I think!) the correct output from the VEP:</div>
        <div style=""><br>
        </div>
        <div style="">perl <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="http://gtf2vep.pl">gtf2vep.pl</a> -i
          Gasterosteus_aculeatus.BROADS1.70.gtf.gz -fasta
          Gasterosteus_aculeatus.BROADS1.70.dna.toplevel.fa -species
          gasterosteus_aculeatus -dir test/ -db 70<br>
        </div>
        <div style="">perl <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="http://variant_effect_predictor.pl">variant_effect_predictor.pl</a>
          -i gastero_in.txt -species gasterosteus_aculeatus -force -off
          -dir test/ -db 70<br>
        </div>
        <div style="">grep -v # variant_effect_output.txt</div>
        <div style=""><br>
        </div>
        <div style="">
          <div>groupXIX_2822477_C/T    groupXIX:2822477        T      
            ENSGACG00000003129      ENSGACT00000004109      Transcript  
               missense_variant  67       49      17      A/T    
            Gcg/Acg -</div>
          <div>groupXIX_2822500_T/C    groupXIX:2822500        C      
            ENSGACG00000003129      ENSGACT00000004109      Transcript  
               missense_variant  44       26      9       D/G    
            gAc/gGc -</div>
          <div>groupXIX_2822523_C/T    groupXIX:2822523        T      
            ENSGACG00000003129      ENSGACT00000004109      Transcript  
               initiator_codon_variant    21      3       1       M/I  
              atG/atA -</div>
          <div>groupXIX_2822541_T/A    groupXIX:2822541        A      
            ENSGACG00000003129      ENSGACT00000004109      Transcript  
               5_prime_UTR_variant</div>
          <div>        3       -       -       -       -       -</div>
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        <div style="">
          <br>
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        <div style="">This works the same if I use the version 67 files
          as it appears you have.</div>
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        </div>
        <div style="">So I suspect there is something different about
          your FASTA file - you could check that the sequence of the
          groupXIX file matches that in the file I link to above (do an
          md5sum or some such thing).</div>
        <div style=""><br>
        </div>
        <div style="">It is also possible that an issue with older
          versions of BioPerl is to blame - there was a known bug in the
          way BioPerl indexes large FASTA file. Normally for Ensembl we
          recommend using BioPerl 1.2.3 (which contains the bug), but
          VEP works fine with the latest version. I'd try updating your
          BioPerl install to the latest version, remove the *.fa.index
          file that is generated next to your .fa file, and try
          re-running <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://gtf2vep.pl">gtf2vep.pl</a></div>
        <div style=""><br>
        </div>
        <div style="">Beyond this it's hard to say what's happening
          without seeing the contents of your GTF and FASTA files. If
          the problem persists, perhaps you could just pull out the
          lines in the GTF for ENSGACT00000004109 and the sequence for
          groupXIX and if that still gives you the same problem, send
          them to me so I can debug.</div>
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        <div style="">Hope this helps!</div>
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        </div>
        <div style="">Will</div>
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      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On 19 March 2013 12:07, Heidi
          Viitaniemi <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:hmviit@utu.fi" target="_blank">hmviit@utu.fi</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hi Will,<br>
              <br>
              And thank you for your response. I'll wait for the
              solution. I like the idea that you can incorporate your
              own data to run VEP.<br>
              <br>
              Thanks,<br>
              Heidi Viitaniemi<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              <br>
              <div>19.3.2013 13:42, Will McLaren kirjoitti:<br>
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                    <div dir="ltr">Hello Heidi,
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>Thanks for finding this - the causes of this
                        bug are I believe somewhat complex so may take a
                        while to get to the bottom of it.</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>Just wanted to let you know that your mail is
                        not being ignored!</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>Regards</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>Will McLaren</div>
                      <div>Ensembl Variation</div>
                    </div>
                    <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                      <br>
                      <div class="gmail_quote">On 18 March 2013 13:48,
                        Heidi Viitaniemi <span dir="ltr"><<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:hmviit@utu.fi" target="_blank">hmviit@utu.fi</a>></span>
                        wrote:<br>
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                          <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hi,<br>
                            <br>
                            I'm running version 2.7 on a unix server. I
                            want to create a custom cache using my own
                            gtf and fasta with <a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="http://gtf2vep.pl" target="_blank">gtf2vep.pl</a>.
                            This works without problem and also running
                            VEP seems to go fine. The problem is that,
                            in the output it seems that the
                            cDNA_position, CDS_position and
                            Protein_position are correct given my input
                            gtf file but the calls for Amino_acids and
                            Codons seem completely random. If I run
                            against the cache retrieved from ensembl
                            these are all correct. The version of the
                            genome didn't have an effect on the output,
                            the gtf's haven't changed. The gtf and the
                            fasta that I'm using for the custom
                            originate from the ensembl reference so I
                            don't see any reason why the custom cache
                            shouldn't perform the same way as the
                            reference from ensembl cache. Could there be
                            bug that somehow messes up the link between
                            the custom gtf and fasta in my run? Below
                            are the commands I ran and a snippet of the
                            output's I got.<br>
                            <br>
                            Thanks,<br>
                            Heidi Viitaniemi<br>
                            <br>
                            For custom cache I'm running (wrong output
                            for Amino_acids and Codons)<br>
                            perl <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="http://gtf2vep.pl" target="_blank">gtf2vep.pl</a>
                            -i GasAcu1.67_group_xixflip.gtf -f
                            gasAcu_group_withoutbac_inv7.fa -d 67 -s
                            Gasterosteus_aculeatus_XIXflipped_18032013<br>
                            perl <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="http://variant_effect_predictor.pl"
                              target="_blank">variant_effect_predictor.pl</a>
                            -offline 1 -dir $HOME/.vep -i
                            ens_realigned_AK_F.var.vcf -format vcf -fork
                            4 -db_version 67 -species
                            Gasterosteus_aculeatus_XIXflipped_18032013
                            -numbers -per_gene -buffer_size 10000 -o
                            VEP_18032013_exon_pergene_AK_F.var.vcf.txt<br>
                            <br>
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                              width="1587" border="0" cellpadding="0"
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                                  width="167"> <col style="width:119pt"
                                  width="158"> <col style="width:48pt"
                                  width="64"> <col style="width:136pt"
                                  width="181"> <col style="width:118pt"
                                  width="157"> <col style="width:68pt"
                                  width="90"> <col style="width:136pt"
                                  width="181"> <col style="width:85pt"
                                  span="2" width="113"> <col
                                  style="width:48pt" span="6" width="64">
                                <col style="width:136pt" width="181"> </colgroup><tbody>
                                <tr style="min-height:15.0pt"
                                  height="20">
                                  <td
                                    style="min-height:15.0pt;width:125pt"
                                    width="167" height="20">groupXIX_2822477_C/T</td>
                                  <td style="width:119pt" width="158">groupXIX:2822477</td>
                                  <td style="width:48pt" width="64">T</td>
                                  <td style="width:136pt" width="181">ENSGACG00000003129</td>
                                  <td style="width:118pt" width="157">ENSGACT00000004109</td>
                                  <td style="width:68pt" width="90">Transcript</td>
                                  <td style="width:136pt" width="181">missense_variant</td>
                                  <td style="width:48pt" width="64"
                                    align="right">67</td>
                                  <td style="width:48pt" width="64"
                                    align="right">49</td>
                                  <td style="width:48pt" width="64"
                                    align="right">17</td>
                                  <td style="width:48pt" width="64">G/R</td>
                                  <td style="width:48pt" width="64">Gga/Aga</td>
                                  <td style="width:48pt" width="64">-</td>
                                  <td style="width:136pt" width="181">EXON=1/2</td>
                                </tr>
                                <tr style="min-height:15.0pt"
                                  height="20">
                                  <td style="min-height:15.0pt"
                                    height="20">groupXIX_2822500_T/C</td>
                                  <td>groupXIX:2822500</td>
                                  <td>C</td>
                                  <td>ENSGACG00000003129</td>
                                  <td>ENSGACT00000004109</td>
                                  <td>Transcript</td>
                                  <td>missense_variant</td>
                                  <td align="right">44</td>
                                  <td align="right">26</td>
                                  <td align="right">9</td>
                                  <td>Y/C</td>
                                  <td>tAt/tGt</td>
                                  <td>-</td>
                                  <td>EXON=1/2</td>
                                </tr>
                                <tr style="min-height:15.0pt"
                                  height="20">
                                  <td style="min-height:15.0pt"
                                    height="20">groupXIX_2822523_C/T</td>
                                  <td>groupXIX:2822523</td>
                                  <td>T</td>
                                  <td>ENSGACG00000003129</td>
                                  <td>ENSGACT00000004109</td>
                                  <td>Transcript</td>
                                  <td>synonymous_variant</td>
                                  <td align="right">21</td>
                                  <td align="right">3</td>
                                  <td align="right">1</td>
                                  <td>R</td>
                                  <td>cgG/cgA</td>
                                  <td>-</td>
                                  <td>EXON=1/2</td>
                                </tr>
                                <tr style="min-height:15.0pt"
                                  height="20">
                                  <td style="min-height:15.0pt"
                                    height="20">groupXIX_2822541_T/A</td>
                                  <td>groupXIX:2822541</td>
                                  <td>A</td>
                                  <td>ENSGACG00000003129</td>
                                  <td>ENSGACT00000004109</td>
                                  <td>Transcript</td>
                                  <td>5_prime_UTR_variant</td>
                                  <td align="right">3</td>
                                  <td>-</td>
                                  <td>-</td>
                                  <td>-</td>
                                  <td>-</td>
                                  <td>-</td>
                                  <td>EXON=1/2</td>
                                </tr>
                              </tbody>
                            </table>
                            <br>
                            <br>
                            For ensembl cache I'm running (correct
                            output for Amino_acids and Codons)<br>
                            perl <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="http://variant_effect_predictor.pl"
                              target="_blank">variant_effect_predictor.pl</a>
                            -offline -dir $HOME/.vep -i
                            ens_realigned_AK_F.var.vcf -format vcf -fork
                            4 -db_version 69 -species
                            gasterosteus_aculeatus -numbers -per_gene
                            -buffer_size 10000 -o
                            ensVEP_18032013_exon_pergene_AK_F.var.vcf.txt<br>
                            <br>
                            <span><font color="#888888"> </font></span><span><font
                                color="#888888"> </font></span><span><font
                                color="#888888"> </font></span>
                            <table
                              style="border-collapse:collapse;width:1101pt"
                              width="1468" border="0" cellpadding="0"
                              cellspacing="0">
                              <colgroup><col style="width:122pt"
                                  width="163"> <col style="width:92pt"
                                  width="122"> <col style="width:48pt"
                                  width="64"> <col style="width:109pt"
                                  width="145"> <col style="width:107pt"
                                  width="143"> <col style="width:117pt"
                                  width="156"> <col style="width:170pt"
                                  width="227"> <col style="width:48pt"
                                  span="7" width="64"> </colgroup><tbody>
                                <tr style="min-height:15.0pt"
                                  height="20">
                                  <td
                                    style="min-height:15.0pt;width:122pt"
                                    width="163" height="20">groupXIX_2822477_C/T</td>
                                  <td style="width:92pt" width="122">groupXIX:2822477</td>
                                  <td style="width:48pt" width="64">T</td>
                                  <td style="width:109pt" width="145">ENSGACG00000003129</td>
                                  <td style="width:107pt" width="143">ENSGACT00000004109</td>
                                  <td style="width:117pt" width="156">Transcript</td>
                                  <td style="width:170pt" width="227">missense_variant</td>
                                  <td style="width:48pt" width="64"
                                    align="right">67</td>
                                  <td style="width:48pt" width="64"
                                    align="right">49</td>
                                  <td style="width:48pt" width="64"
                                    align="right">17</td>
                                  <td style="width:48pt" width="64">A/T</td>
                                  <td style="width:48pt" width="64">Gcg/Acg</td>
                                  <td style="width:48pt" width="64">-</td>
                                  <td style="width:48pt" width="64">EXON=1/2</td>
                                </tr>
                                <tr style="min-height:15.0pt"
                                  height="20">
                                  <td style="min-height:15.0pt"
                                    height="20">groupXIX_2822500_T/C</td>
                                  <td>groupXIX:2822500</td>
                                  <td>C</td>
                                  <td>ENSGACG00000003129</td>
                                  <td>ENSGACT00000004109</td>
                                  <td>Transcript</td>
                                  <td>missense_variant</td>
                                  <td align="right">44</td>
                                  <td align="right">26</td>
                                  <td align="right">9</td>
                                  <td>D/G</td>
                                  <td>gAc/gGc</td>
                                  <td>-</td>
                                  <td>EXON=1/2</td>
                                </tr>
                                <tr style="min-height:15.0pt"
                                  height="20">
                                  <td style="min-height:15.0pt"
                                    height="20">groupXIX_2822523_C/T</td>
                                  <td>groupXIX:2822523</td>
                                  <td>T</td>
                                  <td>ENSGACG00000003129</td>
                                  <td>ENSGACT00000004109</td>
                                  <td>Transcript</td>
                                  <td>initiator_codon_variant</td>
                                  <td align="right">21</td>
                                  <td align="right">3</td>
                                  <td align="right">1</td>
                                  <td>M/I</td>
                                  <td>atG/atA</td>
                                  <td>-</td>
                                  <td>EXON=1/2</td>
                                </tr>
                                <tr style="min-height:15.0pt"
                                  height="20">
                                  <td style="min-height:15.0pt"
                                    height="20">groupXIX_2822541_T/A</td>
                                  <td>groupXIX:2822541</td>
                                  <td>A</td>
                                  <td>ENSGACG00000003129</td>
                                  <td>ENSGACT00000004109</td>
                                  <td>Transcript</td>
                                  <td>5_prime_UTR_variant</td>
                                  <td align="right">3</td>
                                  <td>-</td>
                                  <td>-</td>
                                  <td>-</td>
                                  <td>-</td>
                                  <td>-</td>
                                  <td>EXON=1/2</td>
                                </tr>
                              </tbody>
                            </table>
                            <span><font color="#888888"> <br>
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Heidi Viitaniemi
PhD student
Division of Genetics and Physiology
Department of Biology
Itäinen Pitkäkatu 4A, 7th floor (Pharmacity)
University of Turku
20520 Turku

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Heidi Viitaniemi
PhD student
Division of Genetics and Physiology
Department of Biology
Itäinen Pitkäkatu 4A, 7th floor (Pharmacity)
University of Turku
20520 Turku

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Heidi Viitaniemi
PhD student
Division of Genetics and Physiology
Department of Biology
Itäinen Pitkäkatu 4A, 7th floor (Pharmacity)
University of Turku
20520 Turku

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